Comments on: The Language/Action Model of Conversation: Can conversation perform acts of design? http://www.dubberly.com/articles/language-action-model.html Interaction, Software, and Service Design Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:31:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: David http://www.dubberly.com/articles/language-action-model.html/comment-page-1#comment-81445 David Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:08:21 +0000 http://www.dubberly.com/?p=1079#comment-81445 <p>The Language Action approach seems to not make a connection with the broader cultural framework that needs to be established and agreed for communication to occur: even in Searle-ish terms. He still has the simple communication dyad in mind, it seems, and only partly sophisticates it. The communicative context is not so much defined by the immediate communicative intention or its objects, but within the framework of shared understandings, contextualising cue and inter-subjective messages that are the basis for culturally meaningful conversations. Think of the code words, and other 'in-group' clues that a pair of professionals use with each other that exclude outsiders (not always intentionally) but make the communication efficient as the shared ground is inferred to the satisfaction of both; only then the LA exchanges can have meaning.</p> The Language Action approach seems to not make a connection with the broader cultural framework that needs to be established and agreed for communication to occur: even in Searle-ish terms. He still has the simple communication dyad in mind, it seems, and only partly sophisticates it. The communicative context is not so much defined by the immediate communicative intention or its objects, but within the framework of shared understandings, contextualising cue and inter-subjective messages that are the basis for culturally meaningful conversations. Think of the code words, and other ‘in-group’ clues that a pair of professionals use with each other that exclude outsiders (not always intentionally) but make the communication efficient as the shared ground is inferred to the satisfaction of both; only then the LA exchanges can have meaning.

]]> By: Derek Parker http://www.dubberly.com/articles/language-action-model.html/comment-page-1#comment-67996 Derek Parker Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:50:57 +0000 http://www.dubberly.com/?p=1079#comment-67996 <p>To Mr Dubberly, many thanks for providing some very interesting background details on what has been a longstanding design convention.</p> <p>To Mr Poehlman: I think you do the author an injustice. There are lots of things in science that are abstract formalisms, created in order that we can see common features of sets of things in the world.</p> <p>One of these things is conversation, which involves (in the abstract) the rotation of the role of speaker between participants, according to rules. Once you have the abstraction in place, you can analyse all situations belonging to that set.</p> <p>As a design engineer you would be familiar with such abstractions as "design", "engineer" and "process" which you are using in a way that your so-called "normal people" wouldn't understand.</p> To Mr Dubberly, many thanks for providing some very interesting background details on what has been a longstanding design convention.

To Mr Poehlman: I think you do the author an injustice. There are lots of things in science that are abstract formalisms, created in order that we can see common features of sets of things in the world.

One of these things is conversation, which involves (in the abstract) the rotation of the role of speaker between participants, according to rules. Once you have the abstraction in place, you can analyse all situations belonging to that set.

As a design engineer you would be familiar with such abstractions as “design”, “engineer” and “process” which you are using in a way that your so-called “normal people” wouldn’t understand.

]]> By: m Poehlman http://www.dubberly.com/articles/language-action-model.html/comment-page-1#comment-60006 m Poehlman Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:17:32 +0000 http://www.dubberly.com/?p=1079#comment-60006 <p>I am a design engineer and I thought this article might be about the importance of conversation in the design process, however, I was not able to understand it. It seems instead to be part of a "conversation" intended only for acedemia and not for normal people.</p> I am a design engineer and I thought this article might be about the importance of conversation in the design process, however, I was not able to understand it. It seems instead to be part of a “conversation” intended only for acedemia and not for normal people.

]]> By: Redwan Elsobky http://www.dubberly.com/articles/language-action-model.html/comment-page-1#comment-32655 Redwan Elsobky Tue, 13 Jul 2010 11:19:24 +0000 http://www.dubberly.com/?p=1079#comment-32655 <p>your article is very good, we need more because I need to design a course of teaching conversation.</p> <p>R. El-Sobky Egypt</p> your article is very good, we need more because I need to design a course of teaching conversation.

R. El-Sobky Egypt

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